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RTSFirebat · Dec 01, 2006, 11:55 AM // 11:55

Hello.

Please use this thread to dicuss the Lightbringer title

Basically there is an older thread which is now outdated, as much of it was a dicussion of the fixed AFK farming exploit.

Old thread link: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10068824 Note: This thread is closed.

Since that has now been fixed by A.net and no longer works, that older thread has been closed. Please use this thread to post about farming locations and builds which still work ingame to get Lightbringer ranks.

Please don't dicuss the old AFK farming, as it can no longer be used anymore.

RTSFirebat · Dec 01, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Some quick quotes from the old thread:

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Originally Posted by LoKi Foxfire

The Master-difficulty quests aren't that hard - especially not the two involving Shiro's men and the Fortune Teller. Make sure you get Lightbringer's Gaze and use it to inflict damage - each use does a maximum possible of 100 x 3 damage and interrupts each one as well. I'm almost R4 and I've just been making sure to get bounties while doing the quests....

I also still need to beat the second Keeper quest in Gates of Torment as well. On a side note, anyone find the outpost between Secrets and Fear? I found the Gates of Nightfallen Lands in Fallen Jaha so.

Also here are the rewards for Lightbringer titles so far:

Rank 1: Title Effect, +5% Damage and -1 Damage Absorption per rank versus Abaddon's demons while activated
Rank 2: Lightbringer's Gaze: Skill. Target foe takes 100 Holy Damage and is interrupted. One additional enemy in the area is struck per rank of Lightbringer.
Rank 3: Lightbringer Signet: Elite Signet. If you are in the range of a servant of Abbadon, you gain 1 adrenaline plus 1 adrenaline and 3 energy for every rank of Lightbringer.
Rank 4: ???? (I'm almost at R4 but I've got to work today so someone else will prolly beat me to it)

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Originally Posted by Savio

Probably the Domain of Secrets. Between the Margonite Battle and Menzies Battle, you can get several hundred points clearing the area. Honestly, the Margonites and Shadows are just pushovers.

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Originally Posted by LoKi Foxfire

Yea, I hit R4 tonight. Shadows and Margonites are the best farm... I managed to farm up like about the same amount in one hour. I wonder when this stops because at some point it has to; otherwise, you'll be doing some insane damage to Abbadon's allies...

So no reward at R4 - hopefully that won't be the end of it because I kind of look forward to getting a neat PvE skill or bonus. :X

Shanaeri Rynale · Dec 01, 2006, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Ok i'll play Devil's Advocate. I enjoy seeing a nice discussion once in a while

Why was this an exploit and the AFK 9 rings, the lutgardis FF run(people stayed put, let a runner get the points and then got the reward), or letting a monk rez a mob in order to get sunspear rank 9(afterall AN did'nt intend people to get to r9 just yet) not?

Is something an exploit only if AN change something so it no longer works?

The only reason I can think people might think it was an exploit was that it did'nt require players to actually do anything after a certain point in time and not continuously. But then again so did 9 rings. LB rank does give an in game bonus, but then so does lucky/unlucky in that it contributes to KoBD. So I dunno..

Lost · Dec 01, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

As far as I'm concerned there are no exploits. If it's programmed into the game then it is fair game. Now that it has been removed, that's fine too. It doesn't matter either way to me. It's not like someone's AFK farming took away points from someone else.

I'm just wondering how many lightbringer points will be around in the Domain of Anguish. I guess we'll all find out soon.

ramma77 · Dec 01, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by Lost

As far as I'm concerned there are no exploits. If it's programmed into the game then it is fair game. Now that it has been removed, that's fine too. It doesn't matter either way to me. It's not like someone's AFK farming took away points from someone else.

I'm just wondering how many lightbringer points will be around in the Domain of Anguish. I guess we'll all find out soon.

You're right it didn't take points away from anybody... instead it created a bunch of elitist tossers who think they are better than everyone else because they have rank 8.

bring it

Shanaeri Rynale · Dec 01, 2006, 01:57 PM // 13:57

How did 9 rings make them money? And is something not an exploit if it affects the economy by taking gold out of it?

The Lutgardis FF run gave 100 gold and 2000XP i think. So was'nt 9 rings and the FF run more of an exploit since it affected the economy?

The exploits I do remember for sure were the doppleganger one, where a bug let you get 50K XP over and over again and the 12/8 GvG teams. Both of which were so obviously bugs.

But I really dunno on this one, I note in the closed thread that someone had sought clarification from AN on it. I wonder what came back.

RTSFirebat · Dec 01, 2006, 02:01 PM // 14:01

9 Rings is a different subject all together, and doesn't have anything to do with Lightbringer.

I asked nicely if we could avoid talking about the 'exploit" AFK farming. So please can we not speak about it anymore. I made this new thread to give everyone a chance to dicuss farming areas and builds, not how A.net stopped something.

It's in the past, lets move on.

ramma77 · Dec 01, 2006, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Ok

Nightfallen Garden. I went in there just to look around and ended up getting about 600-700 LB points. Once you get the margonite blessing/hunt/whatever it's game on!!1!!!!

there must be 300 margonites waiting to get slaughtered.

Shanaeri Rynale · Dec 01, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

9 Rings is a different subject all together, and doesn't have anything to do with Lightbringer.

I asked nicely if we could avoid talking about the 'exploit" AFK farming. So please can we not speak about it anymore. I made this new thread to give everyone a chance to dicuss farming areas and builds, not how A.net stopped something.

It's in the past, lets move on.

Ok Np, sorry. I just picked up on the word exploit in your original post and wanted to seek clarification.

Normal service is now resumed..

RTSFirebat · Dec 01, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

Right well generally farming Margonites and Shadows is the best and easiest way to rank up points. They are both weak, unless you aggro too many at once.

Savio · Dec 01, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

They are both weak, unless you aggro too many at once.

You can't aggro too many at once.

Sir Mad · Dec 01, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by Savio

(Originally posted in the AFK farming topic)

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Originally Posted by Cyan The Archer

Everyone saw it coming, but im really dissapointed in HOW Anet nerfed it. They fixed the so-called exploit, but also punished those who farm LB points the hard way.

How so? The "hard way" doesn't involve repeatedly killing spawns of Torment creatures.

I'm glad ANET removed this cheap way of getting LB points. That was getting ridiculous. Since 3 or 4 days my alliance chat was completely dead. I realized soon absolutely everybody and their dog were AFK "farming". And I won't mention how cheap it was...

However, there is one problem atm: getting 50K points is kinda insane - 2 points per kill, that's 100,000 monsters to go (how many points can you get from the 100 LBP quest? 2K?), especially if you compare that to the 15K sunspear points (yes, I know it's broken, but it's going to be fixed). So let's hope we will have the oportunity of gaining much more points from the elite mission (and I dunno why but I have the feeling we will - let's wait and see...).

ramma77 · Dec 01, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Nightfallen Garden. i was in there about 90 minutes. 600-700 LB points. I'm sure if i put thought into it i could probably half that time. It has probably the biggest concentration of margonites in the game.

Savio · Dec 01, 2006, 02:28 PM // 14:28

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

However, there is one problem atm: getting 50K points is kinda insane - 2 points per kill, that's 100,000 monsters to go

25,000 monsters. Clearing out Margonites and Shadows in the Domain of Secrets with just heroes and henchies nets you between 1,000-1,500 points an hour. You could get more if you managed to set up a group. Depending on how many hours you're willing to spend a day farming it, it wouldn't be impossible to get it in a few weeks.

Sir Mad · Dec 01, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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Originally Posted by Savio

25,000 monsters. Clearing out Margonites and Shadows in the Domain of Secrets with just heroes and henchies nets you between 1,000-1,500 points an hour. You could get more if you managed to set up a group. Depending on how many hours you're willing to spend a day farming it, it wouldn't be impossible to get it in a few weeks.

I shouldn't try to do math when I'm tired if I don't wanna be ridiculous.

I still hope we will have the possibilty of doing something more exciting than clearing areas over and over to max this title (repetitive quests in the new elite area as in UW/FoW awarded by 250 points for ex would make it much more interesting IMO).

Wolydarg · Dec 01, 2006, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Wouldn't be surprised if bounties in the elite area went up to 7+ LB points a kill. I figure it'll still take a few weeks for the casual player playing a few hours a week in the elite area. Or at least I hope it'll be that way.

jackie · Dec 01, 2006, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I see my previous post was deleted. Because your post was about AFK farming fix, etc... - RTS

I farmed 50 000 pts for main char in DoS and got about 500 pts in 30-40min.
So it's about two days of non-stop farming with those figures to get from 0 to 50k. Not sure if I'll farm max title for other chars though.

winkgood · Dec 01, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Is nightfallen garden useless once you've beat the game? To me, it looks like any other explorable area. (Garden of Seborhin) Am I missing something?

My Sweet Revenga · Dec 01, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

I thought nightfallen garden turns back into regular garden if you finish the game. I also heard that nightfallen garden was the best place to farm for LB points. But now I also see that domain of secrets is supposedly the best place. So is secrets hands down the best right now or is garden actually better, but only if you haven't changed it back by finishing the game?

Personally I think anet should up the bounty a bit. Getting 2 per kill up to 50k kinda takes the fun out of the grind. Granted, maybe the ANET devs figured it would even out considering the more ranks you achieve, the faster killing these guys becomes since you get the lightbringer title bonus damage. But in practice it doesn't speed the grind up by all that much as you still have to walk from point A to point B between groups (last I checked, lightbringer ranks didn't give speed boosts).

Showtime · Dec 02, 2006, 01:57 AM // 01:57

I think my nf garden is gone... I thought I was only missing one of the spots on the torment map and now 2 are gone. What is the next best place to farm. I still need several hundred for rank 5.